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Good article I am interested in checking it out for sure.


ps...

Ang has 2 A's.

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I don't think that anyone expected Transformers or Dragonball to be really GOOD movies. Transformers people are happy with just the fanservice and action, and Dragonball was pretty obviously a hack job from beginning to end. Casting Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer as Piccolo? Get the hell out of here.

On a side note, I saw that Street Fighter movie recently. What a piece of shit. Chris Klein is the worst thing ever.

As far as calling The Last Airbender a success, I'm still uncertain of that. They still have a lot of money to recoup before the studio starts turning a profit.

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Yeah I think that there is a good chance that it could tank worldwide due to word of mouth.

I don't think 10 year olds will care about word of mouth.

Nicely written post.

Still not seeing it.

"If only he were a good actor and knew how to blink"
hahahaha

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When did they make a Dragonballz movie?

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "

haha maybe he knows more than you think???

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Word of mouth didn't stop Prince of Persia from raking in over 300 million worldwide.

Maybe he's a genius.

They made it over a year ago. It is without a doubt one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life.

I don't know why people would care about the white washed thing if they've never seen the show. For all they know, all the characters ARE white. If they want to be that PC, then technically, shouldn't all the Asians be speaking Asian languages? Then they'll just complain about subtitles. There's always something to complain about. In fact, I'd rather that all the characters in Ninja Assassins (awful awful movie) be white just so I didn't have to watch a bunch of Asians speak their broken English. They casted a Korean actor to play a Japanese ninja who speaks broken English.

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "

Genius. HAHAHAHAHA.

Yeah I agree with basically everything you said. I feel like people just love complaining for the sake of complaining.

Good call and fixed.

Oh speaking of Aang, I also didn't mind that they pronounced the names different in the film. Another thing people were going bonkers over.

good write up, but im still pissed and will never pay 1 cent towards this crap. if you take on a project that has a loyal fanbase, you need to be loyal to the product. that means casting white kids as eskimos and asians is retarded. so is changing the way the names are pronounced. its just ridiculous. there is no justification i can think of to do it. its just directorial arrogance.

as far as cramming a whole season into an hour and a half, that was his choice. he could have gone to 2 hours and he could have pushed some of the content and developed the mythology along the way as they did in the original. he wrote the screenplay, so he was solely responsible for what it turned into.

no matter what he did it would not have matched up to the show and fans would probably have been disappointed..I really have no idea how in only 3 movies anyone would have been able to do this..maybe if they had stretched it out further it could have been ok.. however by making the movie characters hollow and not keeping them in the spirit of their counterparts from the series, he did a big disservice to the source material. I hope it bombs and they don't let him make a new one.. and he is run out of hollywood. the guy sucks and he should not be encouraged to think anything different of himself.

I actually didn't mind that as much as I thought I would. I had heard that those are the ways the names are/were supposed to be pronounced, but they made them easier to say for the Nick audience. Not sure how true that is though.

Sorry. correction. The worst movie ever. I raged.

1) Fire benders can't "create fire, they need "fire pits".
2) Earth benders need 10 of each other to push one rock for the whole movie.
3) Earth benders are imprisoned AROUND ROCKS.
4) They say "awng" instead of "aang".
5) No King boomy. wtf?
6) No Kyoshi warriors. wtf?!
7) No pirates, some earthbenders just GIVE them the scroll.
8 ) No character development of Sokka and Yue.
9) Sokka isn't funny, but rather, depressing.
10) Monk Gyatsu isn't an old asian dude.
11) No A.vatar Roku, but instead, a FUCKING DRAGON SPIRIT.
12) They barely touch on Uncle Airo.
13) Katara is suddenly just "allowed" to waterbend at the northern nation.
etc
etc

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You might say, "Oh Powerdusk, you're wrong as usual, those are a ton of things, you can't get nit picky like that!". But Each one of these events and characters was crucial to the development of aang and the storyline.
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1) Firebenders need fire pits? just conveniently placed? Bullshit. Firebenders create fire. End of story.

2) What's this whole thing with Earth benders being weak? 10? for one stone? for the whole movie? These guys are way more powerful than that.

3)In the show, the Earth benders are imprisoned out at sea, on metal. So they CANT bend. Putting them around rocks for a prison makes ZERO sense.

4) "awng"? Get your character pronunciations right.

5) King Boomy is an old friend of Aangs, and helps push out the fire nation in the last book. His madness, and skill with Earthbending is 100% necessary for the entire story pertaining to the earth kingdom.

6) Kyoshi warriors play a small part in the final battle for the world, but Suki is what turns Sokka into more of a warrior, and pushes his character development for most of the series.

7) Without pirates in the market, and Katara just "getting" the water scroll, the fire nation has no one to trace it back to like they did in the series. It was a terrible replacement that really will lead to problems in (science forbid) sequels.

8 ) Sokka and Yue is again, one of the most character defining moments for Sokka.

9) Sokka not being funny changes a ton. Big screw up.

10) Monk Gyatsu isn't an old asian dude? seriously?

11) No A.vatar Roku! What?! Roku had a relationship with Zuko's grandfather that lead to the world domination of the fire nation, and in later seasons it's what a lot of episodes focus around and Aang learns of. Aang goes to Roku's spirit for a lot of advice, and without that character, again, this movie falls deeper. Instead...they just used a dragon.

12) Uncle Airo needs constant character development. Without him, Zuko's life path would change completely and the end of the story wouldn't have been how it is in the series. (plus, he's not fat. A minor downside)

13) Katara suddenly being allowed to waterbend at the northern nation is flatout ridiculous. Her denial of waterbending for fighting is what motivates her as a character to train harder and be a better waterbender than Aang. Again, this is a lack of character development.

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I'm not just being a nit-pick fanboy. Many similar things happen with Harry Potter movies, but you're able to get passed them. Fans don't come out of the theater bashing HP movies like Airbender did. (at least not the majority).

The last airbender is like taking out every bit of character development between Harry's bullying cousin, his relationship with his godfather and dumbledore, and making each movie without ANY humor.

The 4th HP movie had a similar problem. I.E.: Changing Barty Crouch Jr. to be the torturer of the Longbottoms. It's a blatant error, that makes the 5th movie seem inconsistant. (and makes the 4th movie the weakest of the 6 so far).
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No movie is perfect. This is true. But when it comes to standards of fucking up a great and thorough series, this has set the bar. If you're going to change the story and plotline THIS much, make it different movie completely.

A lack of character development, a complete denial of character existence, numbingly painful exposition, and basic lore and power errors, make this the worst movie I've ever seen.


/begin Powerdusk bashing.

this alone makes me hate it even more. him and appa were my favorite characters.

in fact pretty much everything you tapped on makes me hate it..a lot..they should not even be dealing with earth benders in the first movie..

and how the character names are supposed to be pronounced makes no difference. the series is what you stick to. that is the whole reason the move was green lit in the first place. you stick to what it is in the series...there was no good reason to change any of the crap he changed. I also find the total lack of humor in it to be stupid. you cna have heavy action fantasy flocks with sarcasm and humor. this just reinforces that he totally missed the mark on capturing the spirit of the series.

fuck this movie and fuck m night.

Waaaaa, Spiderman's web shooter is natural and he didn't make it in a lab. Waaaa wolverine's claws come from between his knuckles. Waaaaaa Batman's cape and cowl aren't one piece anymore.

Everything you listed in the context of the movie DOESN'T matter to the movie. I didn't mind the Dragon Spirit, and as my nephew pointed out, it's the Dragon that Roku rode around on. Big deal, they changed things from a bazillion hour show.

I personally like that the Fire Benders need a source of a fire (something we actually have known before the movie came out). Katara always needed to have water on her to use it, so I like the idea that Fire Benders needed a source to bend fire. They're bending the elements, not creating them after all.

The Earth bender part where a few of them throw one rock is a little silly (and unintentionally hilarious), but that isn't all they do. That battle scene was actually pretty cool. You wouldn't know though, because you refuse to watch it. Plus, even if you did watch it your mind is already made up so it wouldn't matter anyway.

The fact of the matter is that I don't think these changes are what hurt the movie as a whole. Please look at the film as a film, not as a "So he didn't cram in all my favorite fucking things? This guy sucks." I mean, it's literally impossible. And again, that's what the series is for. The film is different.

Now what doesn't work about the film is that it just isn't a very good movie, but I think as far as being really close to the source material, he was more loyal than anyone else would have been. And that's probably a fact.

edit: oh, so you actually did see it?

Oh and if you want to see what it truly means to ruin a cartoon show that was intended for kids, please watch Masters of the Universe before you say outlandish things like "The worst movie I've ever seen."

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HAHAHAHA, and at least they didn't invent characters like Gwilldore.

i still say someone else could have done it better. i think m. night was an absurd choice for this.

I'm not saying it couldn't have been done better. I mean, obviously the film needs help. I'm not defending it as a film as a whole, but I will defend some of the choices he made in attempting to fit in the crucial moments of the season 1 story into an hour and a half, and just minor changes to add his own touch to it (like Fire Benders needing a source).

I think the other thing people forget is that Night wasn't chosen for this. He went after it and is the reason it exists.