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Every FPS after the original Quake.

1. Rhythm games, Guitar Hero and Rockband in particular. They are the same fucking game every release and yet they somehow managed to spawn multiple sequals and spinoffs. *EDIT* I forgot fighter games, mainly because I suck at them.

2. Call of Duty 4's MP would be my pick. My reasons for this were the bland and small MP maps, annoying as hell air strikes and attack choppers (which made the small maps a nightmare) and the stupid perks. All of those things made this game really frustrating, even more frustrating than CSS. The SP was probably the best in the series though.

I can't really say I "hate" any genre. Hate is quite a strong word. There are certainly more things in the world deserving of hate other than video games. But there are plenty of games out there that I don't give a crap about. I'll list them.

MGS series
Halo series
The majority of today's console FPS games
Games like Assassin's Creed or Prince of Persia or Uncharted. I don't know how to classify them but they're all pretty much the same to me. (3rd person adventure?)
3D button masher games like those Lord of the Rings series or that game with that chick for PS3 where she's slashing a billion people coming at her.
Gears of War series
Resident Evil series

That is all... for now...

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Only according to the internet. And you know what they say about people that listen to the internet.

Also add MMOs to my list
And for some reason, I think Madden is the inspiration for this question..... Just a guess.

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "

I'm tempted to say MMO's, but that's such a broad genre that has a huge space to grow in. I hate the standard MMORPG gameplay that you find in games like WoW, though.

My other one would be RTS's. Always found it so slow and boring.

Tell me about it.

Tu, I know I shouldn't say much before our show... but I mean... come on man. The fact is, you never gave ANY of those games on your list a solid and fair chance. Lumping PoP, Assassin's Creed and Uncharted into the same territory is almost preposterous. Almost.

Have you really honestly sat down and played an RE game? Pre-RE4 is a bit of an acquired taste, but RE4 is flat our incredible. Never played 5, so I can't comment.

But I guess if you don't "give a crap about them" that means you never will give those games a fair shot. So, oh well?

Uncharted is your loss. It's fucking awesome.

I'm not saying these games are bad. That's why I can't say I hate them. Because I've never even played them. I can't hate something that I don't play. So please do not take offense. My only point is that they don't interest me. Maybe it's just a 3rd person thing? I don't know. I did play through Zelda. Maybe I'm just getting old. I really can't see myself getting into a wide variety of games now a days. I'll pick one or two games to play for a while and that will be that.

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "

Tu, you are really missing out on some great stuff. Dante posted exactly what I was thinking.

I honestly can't think of any single genre that I hate. Sports are definitely the ones I play the least of. You won't catch me playing Madden, but I love Tiger Woods and I played the hell out of Fifa Street on Xbox.

A good game is a good game, no matter the genre.

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I see your point. I'm personally not interested in many of the games you listed too, but I'm sure if I played them I would like them. I do think you should go on a demo download spree with your PS3 though. Considering the amount of money you spent on the machine, you'd think you would want to sample a little of everything. My advice, at LEAST download the Uncharted demo. If you play it and come up feeling the way you think you'll feel about it, no harm done.

I usually like to sample games just to see if my opinion on them is right, though sometimes I do walk away surprised and wanting more. Like yesterday I downloaded the demo to that Batman game that people are kind of creaming over. I have zero interest in this game outside of the fact that it's Batman, and I think the art direction, from what I saw, was balls. Having played the demo I can say that I was mostly right in my initial assessment. This game is pretty much crap, and about as generic as they come. There is a somewhat interesting "detective" mode you can enable that helps you perform certain actions, but all it does is give the players answers immediately and leaves no room for thinking. And WHY is the camera ALWAYS in an aiming perspective when walking around but then zooms out when you run? Good god. I tried it out though, so at least I know for sure.

Aw, dude

I think you have a subconscious prejudice against unreal engine 3 rendered clay people, haha.

wtf?? You are the only person I know who didn't like that demo. I thought it was fun as hell to fight, and the stealth stuff worked really well too. The voice work is all from the animated series too, so there's not much to hate there. I didn't really get why they used the Gears of War camera angle, but whatever. It seems like you already decided you weren't going to like the game going in.

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Yeah I agree with Nate...I think you are the only one who didnt like that demo...I am picking that game up for sure.

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Picking up Batman first day. End of story.

That's probably the best feature about the game.

Sorry guys, look past the Batman clothing and the game is almost as generic as they come. Maybe I'm being too hard on it. It's true that I went in not expecting much, but there have been plenty of times where i went into a game not expecting much and have come out completely blown away. If word of mouth continues to be great after the game comes out, maybe I'll buy it at a discount price, but in no way do I believe that game is worth 60 bucks.

Anyway, I didn't even bother finishing the whole demo.

And Dante, you could be right to a degree. I can't think of any Unreal Engine game I thought had really great looking characters. The environments always look great, but the characters... bleeeeah.

What about it exactly makes it "as generic as they come"?

I'm not seeing too many brawlers like this lately...

1) RTS's. boring snoozefest. i see a giant map with little men and tanks running all over it and my eyes glaze over.

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I used to be a huge fan of Warcraft 1/2 and Heroes of Might and Magic, not at all anymore.



I think thats how I am anymore. I just don't care about playing new games as much as I used to.

I played Ghostbusters for about 5 minutes and shut it off. Its getting the Uncharted treatment.

I can't play RTS, but for some reason I love watching other people play them. One of my friends is huge into them and kicks ass at them too. I can sit there for hours and just watch the destruction.
Probably my least favorite genre is turn based games, any kind.
But I also absolutely hate games with no consequences (new PoP) or no endings (i.e. playing for points only).

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- Oh, great. You killed the invisible swordsman!
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Playing an RTS is like playing a game of chess except much more elaborate. So I guess if games like that bore you then you won't like RTSs. I like RTSs because it deals with both technical skill and out thinking your opponent. If you're just playing the CPU, RTSs are the worst. It's the reward you get from beating another human and out thinking them that's what makes RTSs so great. The same goes for fighting games as well. It's not just about doing technical stuff like pulling off 50 hit combos. When it comes to high level play, everyone can pull off the combos. It's about out thinking your opponents and the mind games the reward in beating another person that makes those games so fun to play and such a huge following. And the games have a very long shelf life because they don't get boring. Each match has something new to offer because no two people think alike. If the games were so boring, would people still be playing Starcarft 10+ years after it was made?

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "

What doesn't make it generic?

It's just the same old game as anything else. You walk up to a thug, hit square three times and he does his little three hit combo complete with slow motion "final" hit. They attempted to add stealth into the game mechanics, but it does things super basic and just has you sneak up on dudes and shows you EXACTLY how to sneak up on guys by conveniently grappling onto gargoyles that have strategically been littered around Arkham. "Hmmmm, how do I sneak up on that guy holding the other guy hostage? Well, I'll just hit the Detective button and it'll show me exactly how to do it." Where are the options? Where are the choices? Maybe choices do pop up later on in the game, I don't know.

Admittedly I haven't played much (neither have any of us to be honest) but as for an introduction to what the game is about, it doesn't do anything that's grabbing my attention. Does it do the things well that it showed? I suppose it does? I don't know, I was too busy screwing around with the shitty camera to remember if I was having fun punching guys in the face.

Maybe I'll play it again tomorrow, in full, and see if I change my mind. It could turn out to be an okay game, but it's not 60 dollar material.

That's like saying a Street Fighter game has bad combat when you're only using one attack. Combo the counters, punches, ground takedowns, standing takedowns, batarangs, and cape stuns and you can get some great combos.



You need to keep in mind that this is an easy demo that is just introducing the game's mechanics. Play the last room of the demo again, and try out different tactics.

To each his own.

Added my topic to the top.

I played Batman again. I tried out more things but still felt it was clumsy. I made it to the same part I was at last time, but instead of turning it off because I was sick of it, I turned it off because I had to leave. It's basically that one room where you have to kill like 5 dudes and it's left up to you how to take them out. I died a whole bunch of times just trying to see what Batman could do. I suppose I take back what I said about it being absolute garbage, but I'm still not sold on it.

And just because Dante brought up the clay people... I can't wait for modelers to stop Z-Brushing the hell out of everything. That's why all the characters look like clay models, from all that Z-Brush. They just need to stop it. It's like bad practice by this point.

I updated my post, bet you can't guess what I put as the most overrated game.