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Everyone and their mother seems to be acting like an asshole over this shooting. The media is the worst offender trying to stir up racial tension. No one knows exactly what happened. The police are doing their job. People need to calm down and relax. It's a shame that the guy was killed but somehow, I refuse to believe he was acting completely innocent. Now you got the internet mob screaming for the other guy to be burned at the stake. They don't even know the whole story. The guy was probably acting like a thug and he was shot. End of story. Moral of the story is, don't be a thug. As for the racial profiling crap, there's a reason why people get nervous when they see shady looking black people around, it's because they commit the majority of the crimes in the country. It's called being smart. If I see some shady ass black guy in North East Philly at night, you're damn right I'm going to be nervous. I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt and risk getting mugged or shot. It's just common sense. If black people don't want to be profiled, they need to stop committing so much crime.

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!

Not even touching this one.

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WOW. AHAHAHAHAAHA!!!

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Damn man.

The issue is that this self appointed neighborhood watchman clearly told the police operator he was following this kid. He mutters "Fucking coons" under his breath. He shouts that the kid is running (which I would do if a creepy dude was stalking me in a car). At this point he has already made the issue worse. He then gets out of his car and (I would assume aggressively based on the way Zimmerman was speaking) confronts Martin. What is Martin going to do? This guy has a car so he can't run, so he defends himself, then Zimmerman shoots him.

What does the law saying about shooting someone in self defense when they are defending them self? Cause that's what this sounds like to me. No matter how thuggish Martin was acting Zimmerman is the one who started the confrontation. Acting thuggish is not a crime.

I don't care what the kid did you killed him. Florida's Shoot First, Ask Questions Later, law is fucking retarded. Zimmerman should not have gotten out of his car none of this would have happened.


I don't give a fuck if the kid punched you in the face, a punch in the face is not enough to warrant a bullet in the chest to me.

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Also that being said I agree that the media whipping this thing up into a hurricane of racial tension is fucking ridiculous.

I kind of wish we hadn't even heard of this until there was some kind of resolution.

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I feel like a lot of it is media sensationalization. You speak as if everything you've read is complete fact and act like you were there to witness the entire event. In your mind, Zimmerman saw the kid and hunted him down. Maybe that is what happened, but we don't know for sure. I don't think he should have went after Trayvon the way he did either. He should have just called 911 to send a patrol over and leave it at that. But I can see why he did what he did too because there were a string of recent crimes in his neighborhood and he's probably tired of it. I know when I had my car broken into, I wanted to camp out at night to catch the mother fucker that did it or some other shady looking guy looking to break into another person's car. Maybe if I had a gun, I'd go out there and shoot him too. Just saying. You don't know the whole story. Whatever you think you know is probably completely biased and mislead by the media. Maybe Zimmerman is guilty, maybe not. Trayvon probably isn't the angel the media would have you believe he is either.

Yeah, so my beef with this whole thing isn't Zimmerman or Trayvon, it's the whole situation with the media and the idiots getting all up in arms when they don't know anything about the situation.

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "

I definitely do not know all of that as fact but I know that Zimmerman was following him in a car and chased him down when he ran. We also know that Zimmerman is a racist. Also unless you saw the kid committing a crime you should have fucking stayed in your car.

We do not know all of the facts but it seems substantially more likely that Zimmerman's actions are the reason Martin is dead, not Trayvon's actions.


Also Spike Lee is a complete moron. He retweeted a tweet claiming to contain Zimmerman's address and it led to an elderly couple being harassed. Spike Lee is also racist as fuck.

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I don't think I've heard this story, where/when did it happen?
Is this what Geraldo was saying about a kid in a hoodie?

fuck the media

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Yeah this is what Geraldo was talking about. Dude is such a moron. I love that people fug up every single picture of him wearing a hoodie and sent them to him.

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It happened in Florida (where else?) and I think it was last month.

George Zimmerman was told by the dispatcher to not get involved, and he did anyways. I don't understand why Trayvon Martin would attack an armed man unless he was provoked.

The race aspect is irrelevant, this guys criteria for suspicious people was wearing a hoodie. Basically he hunted this kid down and shot him, that's not defense that's some predator shit. Kid might have done or said something to piss him off, but you gonna predate on him for dat?

Sorry Smith but you're part of the reason why this thread exists in the first place.

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "

why? i agree with what you said

Yeah I read this one today. What an asshole.

Yeah they're in their 70s and the woman has heart issues. It got to the point where they were so afraid that they had to leave their house.

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as a person who wears hoodies, im against this.

What exactly are you implying with this statement?

Also race, media, etc. aside I don't understand how the killing is justifiable.

Killing someone for looking like a thug is ridiculous. It would be the same if someone was dressed as a punk, metalhead (which carry stigmas as well with regard to being scary, satanic etc.) Someone's atire is not grounds for probable cause.

Even that is beside the point, Zimmerman is not a goddamn police officer, and it is not his job to go out patrolling the streets like some kind of idiot vigilante. Considering trained professionals in the police force can and sometimes do make mistakes when judging what kind of force to use some scared idiot with a pistol is bound to do something stupid.

The media is a whoredaddy, stereotypes are whoredaddies, and vigilantes are whoredaddies. This is not the fucking wild west.

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Also, I read a neat article that tries to dispell the whole myth that "black people commit more crime" in America.

You can find said article here if you wish, but I'll post a bit I found quite interesting below.

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Yes poorer people are more likely to commit crime. There are more poor black people. I don't suspect well off black people to come up to me and cap my ass. It's the people in the ghetto neighborhoods that worry me. And I won't have to worry about a bullet being put into me with financial fraud.

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "

It's not the financial fraud part that's the big issue, though a good economic depression / collapse will starts all sorts of chaos. The bigger issue is the connection to things like domestic terrorism, serial killing, and child rape.

Also when only 2% of convicted black people are convicted on the basis of violent crimes that means 98% of this group is made up of people who are NOT busting caps in anyone's ass. I live next to and used to visit Detroit and I often found I was way more terrified of white michigan militiamen and neo-nazi skinheads then the poor black folk living there.

Also, the other important fact that was missed is that MOST violent crimes are commited by people who actually know each other, and random violence by strangers is extremely small. The likelihood of some guy walking down the road and randomly deciding to shoot you is extremely low. Chances are the black guy in the hoodie coming down the street is probably not interested in just randomly shooting white folk.

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Also, as an addendum, studies have recently provided very good evidence for debunking the whole "it's poor people who are more likely to be criminals" thing. It turns out that rich people are much more likely to be unethical/break laws in terms of their psychology. A nice little article for what I'm talking about can be found here. Here's another article about a different study that shows rich people are less able to recognize emotions and be empathetical, whilst poor people are more likely to be altruistic and empathetic. This article can be found here.



I would think that we can all agree that the person who is indifferent to suffering and selfish is more terrifying than the person who recognizes and finds other people's suffering displeasurable and is more likely to be moved to help their fellow man. At least I would hope that's that case.

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They may not shoot you but they mug you or beat you up simply because they don't like you. Don't tell me this shit doesn't happen because it's happened to people I know. And pretty much every incident I know of personally involved black people as the perpertrator. In fact, black kids tried to take my bike while I was riding it until they realized that I was much bigger than they were and I wasn't a kid. This other guy I know got beat up by some thugs walking from his class to his apartment in North East Philly. My uncle has been mugged twice in NYC by blacks. I have no problems with black people. My buddy at work here is black. But if I'm in a ghetto neighborhood and I see a black thug, you're damn right I'm going to be on my toes.

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "

Oh, and I'm also pretty sure guys all tatted up and skin heads are profiled too.

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "